Comments on: Joseph of Arimathea’s Perception http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/joseph-of-arimatheas-perception/ Encouragements & Provocations for the Pilgrimage to Zion Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:56:19 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mike http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/joseph-of-arimatheas-perception/#comment-48 Mike Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:47:38 +0000 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/?p=271#comment-48 First blog I read after wakeup from sleep today! ---------------------------- <a href="http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://rosezy.panicaway.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=PANIC" rel="nofollow">Are you tension? panic?</a> First blog I read after wakeup from sleep today!

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Are you tension? panic?

]]> By: bpurtle7 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/joseph-of-arimatheas-perception/#comment-47 bpurtle7 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:30:23 +0000 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/?p=271#comment-47 Monte, I will pray. Grace, BP Monte,
I will pray.
Grace,
BP

]]> By: mark jr. http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/joseph-of-arimatheas-perception/#comment-46 mark jr. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:45:24 +0000 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/?p=271#comment-46 The one main thing that causes me to not be able to accept preterism is the issue of the millenium. I don't care much if it's a literal 1,000 years or a metaphor, but I still don't see any evidence of satan being bound and not deceiving the nations. I can understand a lot of their exegetical conclusions, but they botch it bad on Romans 9-11. Paul clearly starts talking about a literal Israel, his "kinsman", then weaves us into the spiritual commonwealth of Israel without doing away with them. When he asks the rhetorical question regarding their total rejection he replies as strongly as possible: "May it NEVER be!" So for me, the issue of the millenium and Israel is what causes me to know that something future is to be expected. Sure, Jesus fulfilled much of the Olivet Discourse if you know your history. But prophecy has a habit of being fulfilled time and time again, as in the case of "the abomination causing desolation". This happened with Antiochus Epiphanes and again with Titus in 70 a.d. But I'm rambling now. Anyway, it's a subject that really can only be treated properly but several days of discussion and probably several years of deep, hard study. As for me, I have a "honey do" list on this wind-stormy day. mark jr. The one main thing that causes me to not be able to accept preterism is the issue of the millenium. I don’t care much if it’s a literal 1,000 years or a metaphor, but I still don’t see any evidence of satan being bound and not deceiving the nations. I can understand a lot of their exegetical conclusions, but they botch it bad on Romans 9-11.
Paul clearly starts talking about a literal Israel, his “kinsman”, then weaves us into the spiritual commonwealth of Israel without doing away with them. When he asks the rhetorical question regarding their total rejection he replies as strongly as possible: “May it NEVER be!”

So for me, the issue of the millenium and Israel is what causes me to know that something future is to be expected. Sure, Jesus fulfilled much of the Olivet Discourse if you know your history. But prophecy has a habit of being fulfilled time and time again, as in the case of “the abomination causing desolation”. This happened with Antiochus Epiphanes and again with Titus in 70 a.d.

But I’m rambling now.

Anyway, it’s a subject that really can only be treated properly but several days of discussion and probably several years of deep, hard study.

As for me, I have a “honey do” list on this wind-stormy day.

mark jr.

]]> By: Monty D. http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/joseph-of-arimatheas-perception/#comment-45 Monty D. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:21:40 +0000 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/?p=271#comment-45 I'm forwarding this to those I believe will/can receive it. This word really encourages me as I continue to strive in fellowship with a small group of "preterist-indoctrinated saints" here in Independence. I keep praying God will help me to see a way to help them "break through" or away from this doctrine, but it hasn't happened yet, because I am still at a loss as to how to even approach the subject. The thing that bothers me the most is that the ideas and concepts behind "preterism" totally and effectively cancels out any desire for "kingdom awareness" as you described here. It always causes me to leave the meetings with my stomach twisted up in knots. Even I am not free to offer ministry in the music God has infused in me because of it. Very discouraging, to say the least. Any thoughts you have regarding this would be greatly appreciated. I’m forwarding this to those I believe will/can receive it.

This word really encourages me as I continue to strive in fellowship with a small group of “preterist-indoctrinated saints” here in Independence.

I keep praying God will help me to see a way to help them “break through” or away from this doctrine, but it hasn’t happened yet, because I am still at a loss as to how to even approach the subject.

The thing that bothers me the most is that the ideas and concepts behind “preterism” totally and effectively cancels out any desire for “kingdom awareness” as you described here. It always causes me to leave the meetings with my stomach twisted up in knots. Even I am not free to offer ministry in the music God has infused in me because of it. Very discouraging, to say the least.

Any thoughts you have regarding this would be greatly appreciated.

]]> By: bpurtle7 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/joseph-of-arimatheas-perception/#comment-44 bpurtle7 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:01:23 +0000 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/?p=271#comment-44 No question, brother. We must come into the love of God Himself for this kind of reality to be recovered. May we be found in Him. No question, brother. We must come into the love of God Himself for this kind of reality to be recovered. May we be found in Him.

]]> By: sclough http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/2009/01/02/joseph-of-arimatheas-perception/#comment-43 sclough Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:24:41 +0000 http://pilgrimagetozion.wordpress.com/?p=271#comment-43 What kind of saints can esteem the body in this way? Truly we need the Lord's desire for His own people that we might provide the witness to the gospel that Jesus prophesied: "they will know we are His disciples by our love." What kind of saints can esteem the body in this way? Truly we need the Lord’s desire for His own people that we might provide the witness to the gospel that Jesus prophesied: “they will know we are His disciples by our love.”

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